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		<title>By: elightbo</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>elightbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Zoeckler...

Living in a digital world makes me yearn for more things that are &quot;real&quot;.  I am constantly wondering if these things are actually helping me out. Are we trying to streamline something that shouldn&#039;t even be getting our attention?  As you know, the internet can be so powerful, but at the same time it can be such a huge freaking noose.  Part of the point of this blog is to start having technology work for us instead of the other way around.  I am very happy you brought this up.

Going lo-tec as a developer would be nearly impossible, but there are certainly things we can all do to streamline things. I hope to post more about this soon.  For example, as a result of checking email less often and sending off less email, I find myself having more conversations with people over the phone or in person. That is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Zoeckler&#8230;</p>
<p>Living in a digital world makes me yearn for more things that are &#8220;real&#8221;.  I am constantly wondering if these things are actually helping me out. Are we trying to streamline something that shouldn&#8217;t even be getting our attention?  As you know, the internet can be so powerful, but at the same time it can be such a huge freaking noose.  Part of the point of this blog is to start having technology work for us instead of the other way around.  I am very happy you brought this up.</p>
<p>Going lo-tec as a developer would be nearly impossible, but there are certainly things we can all do to streamline things. I hope to post more about this soon.  For example, as a result of checking email less often and sending off less email, I find myself having more conversations with people over the phone or in person. That is real.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lewis Zoeckler</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lewis Zoeckler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@elightbo and @theunixguy

That makes perfect sense.  My long term plan is to have my &quot;web concierge&quot; deal with all that stuff, so I don&#039;t even need to check my emails or vm unless it has already been filtered for importance.  

I&#039;ve been having crazy thoughts lately about significantly reducing the amount of technology that I allow into my life.  wondering if I can go without a cell phone and move to checking email once a week.  One result is that I would end up spending more time with people face-to-face, instead of posting on blogs, skyping, ect.  

Do you guys know of any programmers/developers that have gone &quot;lo-tec&quot;?  That would be interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@elightbo and @theunixguy</p>
<p>That makes perfect sense.  My long term plan is to have my &#8220;web concierge&#8221; deal with all that stuff, so I don&#8217;t even need to check my emails or vm unless it has already been filtered for importance.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been having crazy thoughts lately about significantly reducing the amount of technology that I allow into my life.  wondering if I can go without a cell phone and move to checking email once a week.  One result is that I would end up spending more time with people face-to-face, instead of posting on blogs, skyping, ect.  </p>
<p>Do you guys know of any programmers/developers that have gone &#8220;lo-tec&#8221;?  That would be interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett Meiers</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett Meiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also use labels to find stuff easier later.  For example, I have labels automatically applied (via a filter) for all Voicemail MP3&#039;s that come in either from Vonage or GrandCentral.com.   I do the same thing for faxes from MyFax.com.  So if I am looking for a fax that I had received, I can click the label for faxes and just see the faxes that I&#039;ve received.

I also use them to highlight very important e-mails.  By applying a filter which is colored bright red, I can quickly go to that e-mail, deal with it, and get rid of it.

Periodically, one of my servers needs to get ahold of me, and when it does, I&#039;ll get an e-mail with a bright red label applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use labels to find stuff easier later.  For example, I have labels automatically applied (via a filter) for all Voicemail MP3&#8242;s that come in either from Vonage or GrandCentral.com.   I do the same thing for faxes from MyFax.com.  So if I am looking for a fax that I had received, I can click the label for faxes and just see the faxes that I&#8217;ve received.</p>
<p>I also use them to highlight very important e-mails.  By applying a filter which is colored bright red, I can quickly go to that e-mail, deal with it, and get rid of it.</p>
<p>Periodically, one of my servers needs to get ahold of me, and when it does, I&#8217;ll get an e-mail with a bright red label applied.</p>
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		<title>By: elightbo</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>elightbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Lewis, I mostly agree with your point.  I think that labels in gmail should be used to make emails easily retrievable later.  For instance, I label my emails with a project label when they are associated with a certain project.  I do the same thing for client-based emails.  

Also, I think there are certain circumstances when you just can&#039;t give an email the time or effort that it deserves.  For that I will label it &quot;next action&quot; so that I know at some point in the next day or so I should reply.  I also use the &quot;waiting on&quot; label in case the email can&#039;t be completed until whatever it is I&#039;m waiting on is complete.  This is from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.davidco.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;getting things done&lt;/a&gt; and the gmail firefox extension &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gtdgmail.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gtd inbox&lt;/a&gt;

The only problem I have with the follow-up labels is that now I must check my inbox as well as the labels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Lewis, I mostly agree with your point.  I think that labels in gmail should be used to make emails easily retrievable later.  For instance, I label my emails with a project label when they are associated with a certain project.  I do the same thing for client-based emails.  </p>
<p>Also, I think there are certain circumstances when you just can&#8217;t give an email the time or effort that it deserves.  For that I will label it &#8220;next action&#8221; so that I know at some point in the next day or so I should reply.  I also use the &#8220;waiting on&#8221; label in case the email can&#8217;t be completed until whatever it is I&#8217;m waiting on is complete.  This is from <a href="http://www.davidco.com/">getting things done</a> and the gmail firefox extension <a href="http://www.gtdgmail.com/">gtd inbox</a></p>
<p>The only problem I have with the follow-up labels is that now I must check my inbox as well as the labels.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lewis Zoeckler II</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lewis Zoeckler II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Garret&#039;s comment, &quot;However, I do utilize many features of Gmail to filter and label my e-mails and make optimal use of it.&quot;

I remember Tim Ferris suggesting in his book (4 hour work week) that the elaborate filtering/labeling of emails typically enables an addiction to email or information.

In response to Tim&#039;s idea I have eliminated all my email folders and either archive or respond that day to it.  I figure that if it isn&#039;t important enough to respond to immediately, maybe it doesn&#039;t deserve my time.  It has made my one-time-a-day email sessions much more brief.  Any other thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Garret&#8217;s comment, &#8220;However, I do utilize many features of Gmail to filter and label my e-mails and make optimal use of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember Tim Ferris suggesting in his book (4 hour work week) that the elaborate filtering/labeling of emails typically enables an addiction to email or information.</p>
<p>In response to Tim&#8217;s idea I have eliminated all my email folders and either archive or respond that day to it.  I figure that if it isn&#8217;t important enough to respond to immediately, maybe it doesn&#8217;t deserve my time.  It has made my one-time-a-day email sessions much more brief.  Any other thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett Meiers</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett Meiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Through my own processing, I can eliminate the need to check Google Reader all together if I so desire.  However, even though I am greatly reducing the number of posts I actually need to contend with, the posts I do care about go to e-mail. And this, as you&#039;ve discovered, is another problem.

However, I do utilize many features of Gmail to filter and label my e-mails and make optimal use of it.


My use of Google Reader is for casual reading when I am bored. :)  Or, perhaps, I want to discover new keywords that I&#039;d like to read more about in the future.  These keywords, through this discovery session, would then be added to a MySQL table, and then I would receive relevant posts automatically in the future via e-mail.

My server side processing also has the capability to send me an SMS when certain keywords are matched.  Which, depending on the importance of the RSS post, I could have it alert me via SMS and avoid me having to watch for it in Gmail.

I tend to live in my e-mail a little more than is ideal, but my use of e-mail is a little more complicated than casual e-mail use.  In a sense, it is the collecting point from a variety of processes and sources which have already reduced greatly.

In my previous example, I reduced the number of items I received, to less than 1/3 of a percent (0.280314 %).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Through my own processing, I can eliminate the need to check Google Reader all together if I so desire.  However, even though I am greatly reducing the number of posts I actually need to contend with, the posts I do care about go to e-mail. And this, as you&#8217;ve discovered, is another problem.</p>
<p>However, I do utilize many features of Gmail to filter and label my e-mails and make optimal use of it.</p>
<p>My use of Google Reader is for casual reading when I am bored. :)  Or, perhaps, I want to discover new keywords that I&#8217;d like to read more about in the future.  These keywords, through this discovery session, would then be added to a MySQL table, and then I would receive relevant posts automatically in the future via e-mail.</p>
<p>My server side processing also has the capability to send me an SMS when certain keywords are matched.  Which, depending on the importance of the RSS post, I could have it alert me via SMS and avoid me having to watch for it in Gmail.</p>
<p>I tend to live in my e-mail a little more than is ideal, but my use of e-mail is a little more complicated than casual e-mail use.  In a sense, it is the collecting point from a variety of processes and sources which have already reduced greatly.</p>
<p>In my previous example, I reduced the number of items I received, to less than 1/3 of a percent (0.280314 %).</p>
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		<title>By: elightbo</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>elightbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the great conversation!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/theunixguy&quot; rel=&quot;friend&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@theunixguy&lt;/a&gt; I usually have no problem hitting &quot;mark all as read&quot; either.  If I take a break from reader and have no intentions on catching up I&#039;ll definitely do that.  Again, it should be working for you.  

However, I used to click around on my different feeds to read here and there.  For me I found this way completely useless.  What would happen is I&#039;d never really process what I was reading.  I was instead focused on what I can knock off of reader.  Rather than clicking around I just go to &quot;all items&quot; hide the left sidebar, and just read.  It is way more relaxing for me to read this way.  The focus now is simply on skimming / reading.

Another thing I found that helps me is I only go into reader when I know I have the time.  I don&#039;t want to be going there 500 times a day when I can do it once.  If you read the book by Tim Ferriss, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the 4 hour work week&lt;/a&gt;, he discusses batching jobs to save time.  He doesn&#039;t discuss feed readers, but rather applies it to email and other areas of a typical office day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the great conversation!  <a href="http://www.twitter.com/theunixguy" rel="friend">@theunixguy</a> I usually have no problem hitting &#8220;mark all as read&#8221; either.  If I take a break from reader and have no intentions on catching up I&#8217;ll definitely do that.  Again, it should be working for you.  </p>
<p>However, I used to click around on my different feeds to read here and there.  For me I found this way completely useless.  What would happen is I&#8217;d never really process what I was reading.  I was instead focused on what I can knock off of reader.  Rather than clicking around I just go to &#8220;all items&#8221; hide the left sidebar, and just read.  It is way more relaxing for me to read this way.  The focus now is simply on skimming / reading.</p>
<p>Another thing I found that helps me is I only go into reader when I know I have the time.  I don&#8217;t want to be going there 500 times a day when I can do it once.  If you read the book by Tim Ferriss, <a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/">the 4 hour work week</a>, he discusses batching jobs to save time.  He doesn&#8217;t discuss feed readers, but rather applies it to email and other areas of a typical office day.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett Meiers</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett Meiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love RSS and I love Google Reader.  However, I have no problem hitting the &quot;Mark all as read&quot; button even when I know there are 5000+ unread posts.  

Generally I will skim through my &quot;Must Reads&quot; categories which consists of a few blogs run by friends.  Depending on how much time I have, I&#039;ll either do the &quot;Mark all as read&quot; at the top level, or I&#039;ll go through some of my folders and mark them as read.

I have invested some time developing some server-side processing of my own which regularly scrapes RSS feeds and then parses those posts for keywords from a MySQL database.  If there is a match, that post is forwarded to me via e-mail.  If not, I never see the post.

For example, in about the last week, I&#039;ve processed over 65,500 RSS posts from various sources.   Of these, I&#039;ve received only 178 posts, via e-mail, which have matched keywords that I care about. For the other 65,300 or so posts, I never saw, or had to deal with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love RSS and I love Google Reader.  However, I have no problem hitting the &#8220;Mark all as read&#8221; button even when I know there are 5000+ unread posts.  </p>
<p>Generally I will skim through my &#8220;Must Reads&#8221; categories which consists of a few blogs run by friends.  Depending on how much time I have, I&#8217;ll either do the &#8220;Mark all as read&#8221; at the top level, or I&#8217;ll go through some of my folders and mark them as read.</p>
<p>I have invested some time developing some server-side processing of my own which regularly scrapes RSS feeds and then parses those posts for keywords from a MySQL database.  If there is a match, that post is forwarded to me via e-mail.  If not, I never see the post.</p>
<p>For example, in about the last week, I&#8217;ve processed over 65,500 RSS posts from various sources.   Of these, I&#8217;ve received only 178 posts, via e-mail, which have matched keywords that I care about. For the other 65,300 or so posts, I never saw, or had to deal with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Saray</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Saray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also do the star when I really want to look at something later.  Another thing I&#039;ve found myself doing is ctrl-click to open an article in a new tab.  Then if I don&#039;t have enough time to read all of them, I&#039;ll just bookmark all tabs - and read later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also do the star when I really want to look at something later.  Another thing I&#8217;ve found myself doing is ctrl-click to open an article in a new tab.  Then if I don&#8217;t have enough time to read all of them, I&#8217;ll just bookmark all tabs &#8211; and read later.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal G</title>
		<link>http://www.ericlightbody.com/2009/conquering-google-reader/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always &#039;star&#039; an item in GR if I don&#039;t want to read it right now. I then check my starred items list later on to catch up on things. 

Also, did you notice that GR finally implemented a commenting system so that when your friends share an item, you can comment on it? I&#039;ve been using it a lot with you guys but haven&#039;t seen the reciprocal. That was probably the #1 feature I&#039;ve been waiting for them to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always &#8216;star&#8217; an item in GR if I don&#8217;t want to read it right now. I then check my starred items list later on to catch up on things. </p>
<p>Also, did you notice that GR finally implemented a commenting system so that when your friends share an item, you can comment on it? I&#8217;ve been using it a lot with you guys but haven&#8217;t seen the reciprocal. That was probably the #1 feature I&#8217;ve been waiting for them to do.</p>
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